The Queen is Dead, but we’re talking about NBA 2K23 INSTEAD!

[00:00:00] 7654321 Welcome to Skip the Tutorial, an American Podcast We don't care about the Queen We won't be talking about the Queen around here. We ain't got no Queen. We liberated ourselves 1776, it's always 1776 in America. Always. I love tea I love tea That's right. I do love tea

[00:00:44] Don't be taxing my tea Lovely fucking bipolar ass goddamn show today Yes, Lord Like I appreciate cuz I appreciate the weight that you carry cuz my ass is too old to be this irresponsible I was up all night in the damn 2k23 builder How was it?

[00:01:10] Man like you don't under like I didn't even get out of the builder. I Ran around a little bit in the city. I built like four different bills and played it like that the Content creators has been addressing it that had it early. They were like man listen

[00:01:25] I've been in the builder for 12 hours motherfucker for Rick cuz Oh, I mean to cut in I just wanted to show a little moment of appreciation for you In this moment because because that energy is is yes. Yes. It's a good goddamn day

[00:01:42] It's a good day to be alive my friend It It is a good day to be alive the temperatures are dropping fall weathers here soon come on right come on That's what I'm talking about, dude. That's what I'm talking about now

[00:02:01] Morning morning morning. It's a Saturday morning. We both were irresponsible human beings I'm always irresponsible though. Todd. You're the responsible one I'm not supposed to be right. I'm not supposed to be responsible. You are I'm supposed to be irresponsible

[00:02:19] I remember I'm the one who spends my money on stupid stuff like that time. I called you at Walmart and I was like They got Batman the animated series complete edition Hello, bro. Okay. I'm not saying it wasn't stupid for me to spend money on NBA 2k23

[00:02:35] It's the stupidest most emotional primal thing I'm doing right now, you know, I mean, but fuck it Give yourself credit man. You risk your where we balance out our irresponsibilities and enable each other in in positive ways Yeah, man, oh

[00:02:55] Yeah, so just forgive me. I'm still excited to do this, but I am sleep a As I keep saying it advertised everywhere chief you'll they've got a new spiral cup that's coming out apparently man I'm not gonna would I hope that shit don't cause nut cancer

[00:03:17] Like eight years. That's like the way was it was the creatine everybody's always taking the creatine stuff and doctors are like Increased amounts of creatine could cause major issues later on with your kidneys And I got a piss when I'm old I'm not taking no creatine

[00:03:37] Like I gotta be able to piss when I'm old bro, right? Right like an old man's piss is the moment of appreciation, you know what I'm saying? Cuz it's not guaranteed So yeah, I get that I get that. Oh

[00:03:52] Yeah, Aaron, I promise you I didn't have the energy to stay up last night either It was the it was the basketball guys that pushed me through And just the sheer dopamine rush of excitement of the possibility of the greatness of this fucking game Yes

[00:04:08] Yeah, I'm excited. I mean, that's the that's the beautiful thing about gaming though, dude It's like because you can get to a moment where? You will be exhausted from the week

[00:04:19] You'll be working so hard all week. You'll be ready to call it a day. I want to go home I want to watch reality television. I want to eat pizza I want to drink myself into a stupor and I want to go to bed and

[00:04:34] Then a certain game comes out and you're like, I'm 13 years old all over again I'm staying up all night Enjoying what I'm enjoying and I don't care what anybody thinks at this point and the Queen of England died exactly So like this is She's on her Yeah

[00:04:56] It's yeah, okay. That's what's up. Yeah, that's uh, yeah, that's fucked up man That was that maybe we don't care enough about that. We're not gonna get in a political speak today It's not kind of that kind of a brainwave Well and just

[00:05:11] Just it right just to throw this out here real quick though about like the possibility It's who KB and go there. Like I really don't know yet again I'd spend

[00:05:21] Hours just playing around in the builder and the tester like everybody else should do I would suggest before you invest into a bill Especially this year, especially how complicated the build is but partially what sparked this before?

[00:05:34] We even I really wouldn't plan on getting a game again this year I just got linked up with my cousin who was a 2k here who just picked it up Well, I'm surprised and already pre-ordered

[00:05:44] So I'm glad that you know, I got a top-notch ball that I might be able to link up with I mean I'm excited about that. But uh Like I said, it was a kind of fungus in the air about it

[00:05:55] Like I don't know but I'm telling you I might be reaching and I need you to pull me back if I'm reaching right But we talked about this way when Elden Ring came out Yeah as far as the possibility of like the

[00:06:09] You know right now doing the series just fucking around doing a rerun on Elden Ring being childish You know what? I mean It tickles me and you know Just playing through Elden Ring putting the game play up and talking about house of the dragon

[00:06:22] So that'll probably be out, you know, no promises, but maybe you know coming soon with that. But um Long ago. We even talked about it in the episode and I said man the one thing the Elden Ring can do is

[00:06:34] Maybe let's see how it influences other games potentially Yeah, as far as if they can see that this game being successful Can kind of carve out a customer base that actually does want challenge Yeah, like nobody ever thought about that. I think or hadn't thought about that

[00:06:52] It was more just idea of just make it more consumer friendly Make it more casual make it more easier to get on the game. You know, I'm saying and and yes Yes, Aaron, that was the introduction of the fentanyl head babies

[00:07:08] It's a crisis in this country and you can tell I've discussed it. I've discussed it before but uh, yeah say it You know what? I mean? I get it that there's always different ways of drug addicts whose mothers did different types of drugs

[00:07:23] But yeah, man, but this year I promise you I've already got the initial feeling and maybe I don't want to just be mixing the two because of The fact that I've been playing them, but I'm telling you man like

[00:07:37] It feels like Mike Wayne was like fuck it. I've been playing Elden Ring, let's just go, you know, let's go full skill base. Let's try to get this as skill based as possible

[00:07:47] This is the best builder I've ever possibly seen in today and it does not give you everything It's like getting more perfection kind of like it not I wouldn't correlate those two because you can cheese a little bit more in Elden Ring and break it

[00:08:01] but yeah, I love Elden Ring's builder and Just that difficulty alone we're not talking about like the city aspects and the metaverse aspects and how you can get sucked into this whole universe and then bringing back the legendary challenges and

[00:08:16] Michael Jordan being on the cover and the quality of that and bringing back old heads like me. That was just comp comp compity comp comp comp Grinding harder than a motherfucking original 2k 12 like I alluded to in my initial impression

[00:08:33] Like that shit is hard. Like I didn't even get a chance. I haven't even loaded up Michael Jordan's classic game fest late yet like there are games in there from the 80s when they were in the The Louisiana dome playing against Patrick Ewing with grainy old-school

[00:08:50] Video like looking like the 80s that just looks dope, right? So that's just that's not even what people are spending their time with right? That's just what you get if you were all here. Do you want to do that? That's gonna be a good premium experience

[00:09:02] Yeah, I'm not even talking about play now I'm not even talking about like the custom events where they'll have a building in the city that grows when the events come up and just the community in general that general the way I feel like they

[00:09:14] socially engineering the game by building in stamina to where a lot of the problems that Empowered the fentanyl here babies. Yeah gave them more juice to make Chuckie faces and Try to break the game with their Demi God 5-7 point guards. I love it. No basketball players

[00:09:35] Wanted to throw laptops at walls. I think that shit is over with this year, bro I promise you man. We will see you know what I mean? If this is just my honest initial

[00:09:45] Visceral I've been up in and I'm excited to record with you, but just reaction about it But I'm telling you as far as the difficulty scale and the excitement in the community. I haven't seen it. I Haven't seen it this excited in a long time

[00:10:00] And it in actually kind of correlates a little bit of the buzz that I saw with the unexpected Hype what happened with Elden Ringer how that bought a community together? Yeah, even though this 2k if you're a casual

[00:10:12] If you if you like are excited about it, but wanted to get into it I think you really might want to think about that before you invest money into it It's like times are tight right now

[00:10:22] If you're not gonna get the value out of it, like I already blew money on man. I got a bite there Will it I'm gonna still fuck with Madden? You know me but I'll be running on there

[00:10:30] Man, we will be rolling over in his grave if my humble opinion a little bit with what they did They've done especially now with what you can see with what they did with 2k 23 It exposes even more so the flaws in 2k 22

[00:10:42] I feel like that's why they made that game a whole lot easier because they they knew there were some issues with that game So they might have just said fuck it. Just let everybody be super OP

[00:10:52] Everybody can shoot and we'll scale it back at some point and they came out with this one This had to be in in the works for a few years They couldn't just came up with with everything that they just dropped this year

[00:11:03] But at the same time I feel like there had to be some kind of influence with what happened with The most popular game of the year so far the number one game of the year so far

[00:11:12] They just put out a little small pass today, but like there are certain things They're already speaking about about not making a game easier allowing their skill gap to grow Not allowing overly powered broken bills too much. I mean at some point is gonna happen

[00:11:28] But yeah, man, it's uh, it's gonna be an interesting years Like the people that actually love this game and actually play the game. This is not the game the year If you're gonna get the cost value out of it if this is the only game you play

[00:11:42] Fuck it. Go ahead and get it. You might as well get it get it out the way You know, I mean get to work on the grind, but that's my initial impression

[00:11:49] Maybe we can dig into the Elden Ring comparison at another point once I've actually got a chance to get in the 2k But just with the builder alone like in comparison It took me two hours just to figure out my bad motherfucking Samuel L Jackson bill on

[00:12:03] Elden Ring and it's carried me through is still a solid bill. I love that bill is overpowered, man I literally I'm telling I went to sleep. I locked in like for different bills in your career

[00:12:14] But I didn't put a VC on any of them and I just got to the point where I got my VC ready And I'm like, I still don't know so

[00:12:24] Yeah, man like that's another reason like with the bill situation where I was excited I hit my cousin up he hit me up I was like that brings the fun back kind of like what Elden Ring to like the community you got to have a conversation

[00:12:35] because the way the bills are everybody can't score 50 points and have 20 rebounds each night, so You got hey, let me call my friend that I know beat that down on the nose on the game Let me stop being so anti-social. What kind of build are you building? Okay

[00:12:52] Let me try to think about something to compliment you So, you know, I'll have a solid bill if I got a run by myself But as the team we can compliment each other and more fun and that type of stuff, man

[00:13:02] I'm excited to see the possibilities of it. And of course this all comes with You know, I got a hedge so I'm a I'm a sellout a little bit I mean they can always sports games. They can always break the game. They've always

[00:13:16] They're already going too far with the price. We still got boosts. It's still pay to win in there You know, don't get me wrong I'm never gonna like sugarcoat that shit Yeah

[00:13:26] but at the same time if this is not like some people this our only game that you're gonna play for The entirety of the year. Yeah, go ahead and get it out out the way get it out the way you take your time

[00:13:38] But you know, yeah, so that's pretty much I mean my initial reaction That's what I'm most excited about at the moment. I wasn't expecting to be That excited about it, but it has a lot of options for any type of player

[00:13:52] I would suggest even I'm gonna dig into that more when I get into the Jordan challenge But if this is hard as the 2 to k12 version was like I said where you could tell the difference between somebody

[00:14:03] That beat that portion of the game and somebody who didn't and this year they're giving away like you literally Physically be able to see because they're gonna give you all kinds of perks like clothes and sleeves and shit like that

[00:14:15] Just you know cannon fodder for dopamine brain activity, but uh, but just the skill gap alone You know what? I mean the skill gap alone should show up. It's like little idiosyncrasies in the gameplay

[00:14:28] Like you can you could do it. I think you could do it last year but just this was the first year I sat there in the Download screen it was like, okay

[00:14:36] Let me remember how to throw the alley you put off the off the bounce off the ground. Yeah with Luca Yeah I might make a look. I got it. Oh, yeah one more thing. I said there. I think I might settle in on a two-way

[00:14:52] Inside out score. This is like 610 bill Mmm do it but Yes. Yeah, bro. Yeah Curtis. Yeah, man. I'm telling you is is it's in the it's in the air We're gonna be talking about it. Wait, that's pretty much what I got so far for initial reaction

[00:15:12] I know I rambled on a little bit now, bro. You didn't ramble on man like I mean it wasn't too sleepily and can't be Incoherent. No, man. It wasn't incoherent at all. The thing that I kept hearing when it was just like like

[00:15:24] And we've been saying this since we started this show sports games and RPGs are basically the same type of game They really are like I mean they really are Dude, I pay money every month to Final Fantasy 14 in an MMO RPG

[00:15:40] I do the community events so that I can get my items. I go on dungeons I build a certain way so that when I do play with my friends that we're Complementing each other and I'm doing certain things to make sure that certain like I have certain

[00:15:58] attribute or points in certain attributions So that in order to match their attributions We can all play together and have fun and complement each other as a team when we go into our dungeons So yes, like they are the same Thing like there's PvP mode

[00:16:17] You get in there and you can fight other you can fight other players on a regular base. I mean, it's not That's the that's the one thing that I think a lot of people in the community really kind of forget is

[00:16:29] Without gaming like sports games in general like with sports games are still some of the biggest games of all time Like Elden Ring can sell I get it

[00:16:39] But sports games are always going to outsell sports games and Call of Duty those things are always gonna sell like hotcakes because people engage with that sort of stuff and Always I look at it like music industry a little bit a lot of music

[00:16:54] Like a lot of people or people that like sign artists they lose money on a lot of the other artists But you're counting on the main big constant sellers to kind of carry the company while you figure out the you know

[00:17:08] Diamonds in the rough. Yeah humble opinion. You know what I'm saying? It's true though like you you you count on the Lady Gaga's and the Britney Spears and

[00:17:17] The ones the adult like the people who are always gonna sell I don't know who the hot people the yachts Beyonce or whatever Beyonce Yeah, so her sister can put out a little oh

[00:17:28] Lord, I just saw a video from Lizzo this morning, but it's it's so like they got Beyonce Beatish, but that also means because Beyonce is doing records her sister can do

[00:17:41] amazing artistic records that are representative of the Houston rap scene in a way that Beyonce could never do and They're incredibly they're absolutely incredible So yeah, like that is the that's the truth like you count on the big-ticket items so that you can

[00:17:59] Invest in the smaller items. I don't think gizmo agreed with me, but whatever gizmo. You don't know what you're talking about You've been on one all day But yeah, and I'm excited to see where your journey with this goes

[00:18:14] It's going down yeah, it's going down a childish road. This will be fun. This would be fun Like I said, uh, I thought I was gonna do my Larry June bill from 2k21 that horrible horrible video

[00:18:25] I put out embarrassing. That's probably I might not get a regular job again because of that stupid fucking video But I'm telling you man. I never made a big man before Yeah, I had not not never I had one last year but like a primary bill

[00:18:40] It's just the the building alone man, like I came once we as soon as we get off of this I'm gonna see my cousin probably gonna be on and we don't have a conversation like I might switch it all the way up

[00:18:49] But right now I'm thinking cuz I run wreck 2k inside out score. I would be I will begin some gameplay I can't wait to share more with you. Yeah, bro. I can't wait to see it. I'm gonna be honest

[00:19:00] I can't wait to see it up on the channel I can't even front like I haven't even explored the half I haven't even done like I soon as I set on my build

[00:19:09] I'm going straight and finishing this challenge to get my four extra badges like it's dead time And it's a good time to have that. You know, I mean, it's a good I'll be able to make good use of it, man

[00:19:19] I'm not gonna be going out looking at titties and ass on the daytime on a Tuesday You know, I mean, so that's always good unless Not in real life maybe on Disney pluses she look at that she old

[00:19:35] You got there. You got the green TNA going on the she whole bro Play that's a that's that green Some people are really that that that did not last long My understanding is reddit has already started to make their own drawings if you know what I mean of

[00:19:52] My understanding is reddit has already started to make their own drawings if you know what I mean Bro, come on. We are a perverse society that tries to pretend we're not perverse But the truth is is everybody just wants to have sex That's That took a weird turn

[00:20:14] That is true man, that's very sigma 40 years and at this point Amazon sign my plan prime. I mean, yeah Amazon Prime is slam Netflix and chill, of course

[00:20:27] Motherfucker. Yeah, Disney plus interest that is one of mom that that's you know, I said I still I'm still shocked by the By the cheap clapper. But yeah, you sure I'm not tripping with that compare. I know you

[00:20:38] Promise you man. I'm glad you gave me that feedback back cuz I promise you this year in particular like Bro, I mean no, I'm not no 100% I don't think you're tripping on that

[00:20:50] I mean the reality too is that like and I was reading up on this is I think we're We're about to start entering a new phase of gaming And I think what you're gonna see is the major brands like 2k who can show evolution through time

[00:21:08] Are going to persist The problem is is stuff like Call of Duty like if Call of Duty doesn't show some type of evolution It's still a huge game. But there's there's been a big call for Let us evolve the gaming to match and I think Elden Ring

[00:21:25] Like you said Elden Ring God of War spider-man all these single-player games I think they're having an impact on the multiplayer side because people are going Okay

[00:21:34] we do need to evolve into we do need to evolve it because it's clear that they're not engaging as long or as continuously as regular Then you have some success stories like destiny 2 I got on destiny 2 the last night and this morning

[00:21:50] There's still a huge player base for destiny 2, but they're constantly evolving it like there's always something changing in destiny 2 It's Final Fantasy 14. That's the same thing for me It's like yes, you have the basic missions but Final Fantasy 14 like yeah, we have a subscription model

[00:22:05] But we're gonna we're gonna make sure that we're putting out regular content And the thing I love about Final Fantasy 14 is if you buy the latest expansion you get all the other expansions that have come out It just automatically bundled in

[00:22:20] So they're just like yeah, here you go We want you to play through the entire story because it's incredible and if you don't want to play through the story here You can pay 10 bucks. It'll catch your character up and we'll tell you what happened like it's

[00:22:33] It's like there's some things that are certain companies are doing and I think what you're what you're getting to is like The new 2k is like there's an evolution there. That's occurring

[00:22:45] Exactly, and you really actually truly well and you encompassed it on me you encompassed it in the sense where Where this could be? If not the best but up there with the best not just

[00:22:59] 2k is ever but just sports genre games because that's what 2k is as much as I hate to admit it like That's just what it is of all time. Like there's a like sports games is just you know quantitatively qualitatively

[00:23:13] That's pretty much that's just my opinion, right? Yeah all those experiences like that evolutionary aspect that you get from destiny the MMO aspects of it the RPG aspects of it the community aspects when you put it especially

[00:23:29] Next gen this year this I really do not want to go back to current in I'm not planning on doing it I got both copies. That's great. But the city the way they cultivated it the fact that they shrunk it 30% they added more fast travel points and

[00:23:45] They're giving you so many options for play styles If you're a casual date, they're gonna have an area there. Like I said, then bring it back to Jordan Classic games alone is a challenge when in itself. Yeah, I don't even touch franchise

[00:23:59] I don't even play now if you just wanted to do my career if you just want to do 1v1 and grind your character 2 v 2 3 v 3 Rick pro-amp like there's so many options

[00:24:09] To keep you engaged in addicted like a 87 year old smoking motherfucking Virginia Slims in front of a goddamn Slot machine, but I can even tell her the music and stuff like that

[00:24:20] They're trying to make little differences and I would hope that this is leading more to a kind of service based yearly update Like price gouge. Yeah, maybe go to free to play it But I don't think it'll ever fucking do that You know what I'm saying?

[00:24:37] but as far as like the evolutions of the capability of what technology can do I'm talking about just Just the face game like the next year bro is that's a whole different monster this year as far as the time evaluation Hold on real quick. I got it

[00:24:54] This is I normally won't want to do this making a 3 and D shooting guard on K4 slash for Curtis for real deal shit. I know I've been saying this shit for a couple of years, but no joke I'm telling y'all got a 16 to way inside out score

[00:25:06] I'm gonna probably deal with and make we you know, we can definitely link up on there But this what I'm saying like that conversation be alive the game just came out the last time it was bubbling like this was Elden Ring for me Yeah

[00:25:18] I'm prompt like the more I get into it I'm the more I'm gonna be following both the warm of you kind of tracking but I do think that like it makes me more

[00:25:25] Grateful for Elden Ring right now so far. I'm telling you like they figured out some math and they're using it I would almost say you could get it be but like you definitely

[00:25:35] Don't waste your money. You know, I'm saying I want to do like I know what's good The Zenness of the MMO, you know and that balance here is really great But uh, but then you have you had brought up

[00:25:49] Something totally different. I'll probably ramble on again about 2k I got the cringy MJ background and I'm gonna be talking about this shit for probably a while

[00:25:57] But I can't remember the name of it. You brought up a game that was on game pants though. Oh, you're talking about immortality Yeah. Yeah Let's go into that here in a second

[00:26:10] I kind of wanted to talk about just because you gave me this idea and we're talking about this a little bit last night was Kind of this this this is in peaceful place that MMOs 2k destiny to Kind of this beauty of live service games

[00:26:29] We've we've talked a lot and the reason I want to talk about this is because in the past we have criticized live service games A lot, right? We've we've gone into the the pay-to-win

[00:26:39] Where the battle passes and those issues that and yes those still exist in the loot box issues still exist But there is still a positive that I find myself engaging with when they're done correctly on a live service game When they're done correctly and they're done beautifully

[00:26:56] That you can find a real peaceful kind of our Element in there and it becomes almost a meditative Situation that you go through now in Final Fantasy 14 has become that lately for me I've probably put a hundred hours into that the last two weeks

[00:27:13] Because I've really been engaged back to it But the thing about Final Fantasy 14 is what I'm finding peaceful about it is the ability to they're not a challenge But it's the ability to shut my brain down for a little bit

[00:27:26] You know engage with the clicks and just get in a zone in gaming Getting into that zone where my brain's not necessarily shut down completely I'm focused on what I'm doing on the game

[00:27:38] But I get into kind of like it's like a runner's high almost when you're exercising Right and you don't realize like I always say that when I'm exercising and I get on the elliptical and I get in a mile

[00:27:49] Three and a half and Toby comes on my Spotify and all of a sudden I'm hearing that I don't even know what my legs are doing. They're doing it themselves So

[00:27:59] To go back to correlate again, right? Yeah. Now, you know, I actually I actually played basketball. I love basketball I'm like, yeah, I'm all here right, you know, I mean, but yeah, but you know, I'm like I really was like

[00:28:11] Yeah, I was with the d1 the whole fucking you play, you know knee surgery Like, you know, I mean like I had the the child dish above the rim Dreams like for real from the hood like that's that's all I had

[00:28:23] Right, so I love the game the competitive flow of like I know what it feel like the dunk in real life So like I do not from a little man, you know, I mean like I know what that's like

[00:28:32] So, I mean that's my first fucking love. So I'm like, I'm just like every other I've said like 37 fucking time but uh yeah, man, it's Good to hit that flow state like you were saying like that one time and you can kind of get there from 2k

[00:28:48] But I think what it had lost was with it going so casual you would go completely branded Yeah, so it's that perfect kind of balance there's a balance Where is you'll never reach the perfect balance of challenge in?

[00:29:02] Competence. Yes, but when you get close to that challenge competency just I think it's something the way our brain work with it with any Type of MMO or the sports or whatever when you get that

[00:29:12] Just right. That's when you can retain an audience and you know manipulate their pockets, which I think 2k They got a formula this year, yes, they just don't need a that's don't mess it up

[00:29:24] You know to me I think and again, we'll see I might I might get in the park this year I don't know But yeah Just that that really brought me back because that's what I really do look for and even last year like I would get on the

[00:29:37] Courage in and just shoot around in the my court to get that meditative experience get my jump shot, right? I might be listening to a podcast trying to learn something new but playing the game here You know what? I'm saying or listening to a documentary or something?

[00:29:52] So and that's what to can then that's part of the grind to doing my workouts Yeah, something else do it just like in real life. You know what I mean? That's another thing in the city bro. Like when you play my career, right?

[00:30:04] It's not it seemed like a little thing but it really the I'm beyond Senate. It really is just cool So like if you get drafted I got drafted by the Bulls this year when you go out there's a stadium

[00:30:14] It's like there's a whole fucking bull stadium and it makes it feel like you going to the game like you going shopping It's some crazy shit. It just feels like you could go buy you go to the Nike store to buy your stuff

[00:30:26] It's been in the game with certain little tweaks that they made just chefs kiss Chefs kiss like you could tell like people complain about the city being big

[00:30:35] But I got it cuz just for the size of it to load in you could tell they were figuring it out But just with them shrinking it at 30% and adding those fast travel points that made it a lot of fun, too

[00:30:46] But uh, but I don't want to overdo it. I'm just you know, I'm sleep depre Sleep deprived. I can't talk. Yeah And I might sleep on and wake up and grow and be like, oh, come on old man Andre again, but right now this my initial

[00:31:03] Reaction from first such in the game after There's something beautiful about a game that makes you when you're in your 40s want to stay up till 4 o'clock in the morning Like it's right. Yeah beautiful about that like that reconnecting to

[00:31:17] It's been a long time since I've I felt that in a way like the last time was Eldon ring And I'm not gonna say a long game It was yeah

[00:31:26] Eldon ring was the last game that made me want to stay up till 4 o'clock in the morning playing it and and that's what but in a different way because Eldon ring also made you want to fucking slit your wrist sometimes like you get locked in a

[00:31:37] Knockering city and fall off a fucking cliff 18 times It could ruin your day But there but they I feel like you can't learn from it like that's why the brickety bricks I see the brickety bricks coming back

[00:31:50] But people are embracing it where they didn't give the gaming community enough credit. I think I think they Disrespected the actual core base a little bit as far as just how dumb they feel like we are

[00:32:01] As a whole core whether you're eight, you know, what are you 50? You know what I'm saying? But yeah, my old days ain't that's what I'm telling you, bro

[00:32:09] I'll stay up like I game and shit like that, but I've been did I've been did this I was I've been doing this I was 10 years straight with no regular job before YouTube. Well, you know what I'm saying playing the game you feel me?

[00:32:21] So like just on some ignorant regular nigga dumb shit, you know, you know my story so like I just started being a real adult Yeah 30, you know Yeah Yeah, and that's kind of like I don't know like I don't know I go back to it. It's it's it

[00:32:39] And before anybody shuts their brain off to anything like shuts their mind off completely for it You know just because it's a sports game or NBA or just because it's an MMO like Final Fantasy Like my theory in life is anything can be good racism. Oh

[00:32:53] That was not my theory in life. That's my go-to. That's my go-to card. That's the Racism just throw it up. No what I'm saying those anything can be anything could be good anything could surprise you

[00:33:06] You just never know until you give something a shot like just in here's the other thing too is as we grow we evolve I used to not like MMOs that used to not be my thing Like I used to could not stand the the concept of them

[00:33:21] But as I get older, I like the casual engagement and like the Zen experience like sometimes turning on a movie Sometimes turning on a podcast sometimes listening to an album whatever it may be of engaging with that MMO in that path and

[00:33:36] You know as we change our taste evolve It's like you may not like broccoli when you're 12 But if you try it when you're 30, you might like broccoli and you don't even realize it. So I'm not gonna like broccoli. I like broccoli parts. It's too late. It's too late

[00:33:50] If they just if I'll go to the doctor and be like, hey, man Should I more broccoli? Now you got now you got the nut cancer because you drank too much G food staying up all night playing

[00:34:02] 2k23 like a fucking childish person where you should have been looking at investing more into your 401k you dumb fuck Who knows and also my bad man, I know I said I didn't forgot about the mortality

[00:34:14] I just looked at the screen real quick and seen that you put it up. Good job, man You're you do great with how you produce the lives. But yeah But go on to immortality

[00:34:24] This is actually gonna key off because I tried three games and games past this week that I wanted to talk about but the first One being immortality and then I want to talk about the concept of choice so

[00:34:35] Immortality is as it says an interactive movie trilogy. This is a critics game Todd This is this is and I'm not talking about like the major IGN although they may have given it a high score

[00:34:50] I'm talking about you know, those like indie critic developers and indie critics who they mostly review stuff like You know the the 799 twist or Nintendo switch game that nobody's ever heard of and they're like it's the greatest game of the year

[00:35:07] That's this kind of game for me so immortality is You get in to a UI you have a bunch of film clips as you look at the film clips

[00:35:18] You're trying to piece together a story of some actress who was around in the 60s came back in the 90s Then the early 2000s and disappeared, but she never ages So you're trying to piece it all together. And the way you do that is you watch a clip

[00:35:31] And then you highlight a face or an object in the clip and you click on it and it brings up another clip that's related to that face or it looks like that face or image and

[00:35:42] Then you can put them in order of the timeline that they occurred. I love puzzle games For sure, and I wanted to try immortality because I saw I'll hide on Metacritic like an 87 Metascore

[00:35:56] And I was like, oh, that's good. It's a puzzle game. This is not for me This this is a hundred percent not for me. This is to me. This is super boring

[00:36:06] This is not something I want to engage with at all the fast-forwarding there rewinding clicking on stuff there's there's no real element of That's the thing is is is For the game outside of the clicking on the faces and looking at the other clips

[00:36:24] There's no other elements to really engage me with this does like Lex Friedman come out and start explaining advanced chess Robotics to you some sort might as well Might as well because this is the type of situation that I almost questioned like is this a game?

[00:36:43] Like is this really truly a game because there's and that's not to say that it's wrong, but there's no objective There's no component of engagement, there's no activity outside of

[00:36:55] clicking on the faces and seeing what the AI says is gonna be in the next clip that shows up in the bundle and Essentially uncovering all the clips. I played for like two hours and I unlocked 17 achievements So the question is like is this truly a game?

[00:37:11] It was this meant to be a game or is this more one of those? Hey, it's super casual if you want to put the story together go ahead I don't I'm not a fan of it myself. I'm not it's on Xbox games pass

[00:37:25] If that sounds something like that's up your alley I would recommend if you want to go engage with it, but for me, this is a hundred percent not my thing And it all was kind of what is the definition of a video game these days

[00:37:39] Because I feel like some stuff can pass as a video game and it's not really a video game I mean, don't get me wrong. You could tell they put effort into it. These are live-action scenes. They recorded them they had actors and actresses and they put in the

[00:37:55] You know actual time to put the AI system in to uncover the clips and discover it But it's almost like a question of like why am I doing this? Like why would I spend hours doing this if if there's nothing driving me outside of you get a very

[00:38:11] Brief prologue at the beginning that just says hey, you're part of a film preservation society And we thought these films were lost to time, but you have now uncovered them So it's your job to put them together and I thought it was gonna be more like

[00:38:25] You could put the actual clips together and you could see them all and you would try to order or arrange them That's not it at all. So I really I don't know for me. It's it's it's not something I'm going to

[00:38:38] Completely engage with but I'm curious about anybody in our community who's played it and loves it and I want to know why I Legitimately, I'm curious. Like why do you love because I feel like right now

[00:38:49] It's got an 87. It sounds like a game that it sounds like a game that you would generally love We talked about that. I mean that man. It sounds like a game that you would love but it's Unfortunate that uh, you know, it's not the bees knees. Hey Yeah

[00:39:04] Man shout out Shot do it. You know, I mean he was talking about me and my me and the wife finished the quarry last weekend man, uh Look into that more. I looked into it more after you talked about it. I didn't hear I'm

[00:39:19] I'm uh, I don't want to challenge you sir, but yeah, bro I think there's a there's some car games out there, but that I went down a rabbit trail There's I think you might like well, here's the funny thing about our games

[00:39:33] I love horror movies for the most part. I don't like any horror video Evil like I can dig it or Silent Hill Like just those interactive horror movies The quarry is the first one that I've actually kind of enjoyed and I'm half I'm about halfway through it

[00:39:50] And I really like it's beautiful games gorgeous. It looks like you're playing a movie And I'm probably gonna play it more this weekend I actually kind of wanted to sit down and fully beat it this weekend get all the way through it

[00:40:03] it's a little bit redundant with some of the Quick time events. They're all kind of the same The choices are interesting and I feel like the choices do matter to a degree because you can't unlock different endings So it does make me want to play through it more

[00:40:18] But it's definitely an 80s horror movie, but like I tried to play What was it back in the day? Was that first PlayStation 4? One do you remember they made three of outlast I think was it?

[00:40:32] That was right, I believe so I'm playing without checking the Google a the G or or Googling Do we say the quarry is not scary in the slightest bit I wish they learn more On the head ghostly part, there's a hag. There's a hag

[00:41:06] Haven't got to that part yet Well, I've got to the part where they explain the story of the hag the quarry Yeah, that's part of the reason why I was late fucking getting on 2k last night though. The Hague's scallywags Yeah ball head chicken head shit

[00:41:21] It's my fault. But yeah, man the crazy thing about this though. Like that's another thing It kind of I think it led us into real quick I don't know if you want to touch on it now, but just the idea of too much choice

[00:41:33] Like I think I'm gravitating and getting back to being okay with like They shit that I fucked with being alright with it. Like I don't necessarily Necessarily like I've been playing sports games my whole life

[00:41:45] I the elder ring shit is right up my alley this year actually surprisingly that was fun But you know we had the conversation as far as Xbox giving you so many choices

[00:41:55] But literally it's still only 24 hours in a day and most of these services times an economy, right? Right. Like that's what you were saying Like this like yeah, like time being an economy of its own and I'm old I mean inflation gas prices things just you know

[00:42:14] Nuclear bombs all kinds of stuff going on. I also don't have time to watch House of the house of the dragon ring of power Harley Quinn or HBO Max because that's surprisingly fun What else you know, I'm saying paper girls on whatever

[00:42:31] Paper girls Call of Duty, which I finally I took that Call of Duty Vanguard shit off my PlayStation 5 I don't have enough PS 5 memory on there man a big-ass game taking up all this

[00:42:40] It's too much. So it's just with the PlayStation system the switch having the Super Nintendo the Xbox on the PC and on the Xbox There's too much. There's too Like you say Anxiety yeah, it's called analysis paralysis when you have too much choice

[00:42:57] It can actually cause you anxiety because then you feel like you're missing out on other things Instead of just like really sitting down and go What do I engage with best because I I'm getting to the point now where it's like if I read a book

[00:43:09] I give it 50 pages if I watch a television show I give it one episode if I'm watching if I'm playing a game I'm gonna give you an hour of my time

[00:43:18] And then if you don't engage me in those first 50 pages in that first episode in that first hour I'm probably not gonna engage with you anymore. I'm just I'm just not going to I

[00:43:32] Just don't have the time for it. I tried two additional games on Xbox last night. I've tried that new Disney game Dreamlands or dream worlds or whatever? It's not my thing. No, it's not made for me That's a hundred percent like it's it's a you build

[00:43:47] Inside there and there's a bunch of Disney characters and I feel like they're trying to recreate Disney infinity Which I actually enjoyed Disney infinity quite a bit and You know, then I tried tiny kitten the other one where which is kind of like a Pikmin esque style game

[00:44:05] Puzzle platformer. I thought it was cool and look good and stuff and I was like I got an hour into and I'm like, I'm not gonna engage with this anymore

[00:44:12] I could keep this on my on my Xbox games pass with the promise that I will play this one day I will tell myself I will play this one day But the truth is I never will and it'll expire and it'll disappear and then I won't care

[00:44:28] But too much choice can cause anxiety and causes me anxiety looking at my Steam library going I'm never gonna get to play all these I want to play some of them and I'm never gonna get to play the

[00:44:38] 700 games I have in here her like one chat brought up a point do you think there's a difference between like collecting having a collection of games and in feeling the pressure of The analysis with paralysis or is that the same thing? No, I mean, I think

[00:44:55] I'm a collector Like I collect physical copies of games For sure, and I always have those options to just like movies too. I collect physical copies of movies You can't collect fucking laser dis laser. You know, you are you're not a virgin you married

[00:45:15] But I you literally have like a 40 year old version eBay collection. That's fucking ridiculous. I do don't take it out the package I Mean for credit loud, I don't know if I've ever shown you this

[00:45:31] I've got this sitting on my wall. It's an autographed Boba Fett action figure Still have you taken it out the back? No, it's in it's actually in a protective case y'all It's an autograph for by Jeremy Bullock the original actor who played Boba Fett Yeah, man

[00:45:50] No, but what I'm saying though is like on twitch. I think there is a difference between Collecting physically the media you want to own and having a shelf that you want to own and Having access to multiple options on Netflix Hulu Amazon Prime Xbox games past PlayStation Plus

[00:46:12] Like you see what I mean? Like there's there's a difference between having the library phone alone Instagram Facebook. Tick-tock Yeah, gmail's right, right your personal library. You can curate You can buy the stuff you want to buy that You know

[00:46:28] You might engage with one day or probably will or already have engaged with and you just want to keep it the Xbox stuff like or The PlayStation or the phone like that is not curated by me

[00:46:40] That is curated by somebody else saying here's a million choices for you Choose one to spend an hour and a half flipping it with light light bright bright lights in front of your face Yes Figure it out most people I would love to see a study

[00:46:58] But I'm assuming most people spend more time browsing Netflix than actually watching something on Netflix That would be an interesting study because I'm definitely one of those people most likely literally you that's it I'm not no I am I know I definitely am

[00:47:12] One more thing the possibility of 2k being a goaded game 2k 23 being a goaded game is because I'm telling you like the economy of it And just pinning down or like this is what I'm gonna be doing this year

[00:47:27] Good job and giving me plenty of options to and you know I wouldn't be surprised if it was a study done on that game and they try I'm telling you it was like, okay

[00:47:36] We got a habit where we got to figure out ways to make it less toxic Let's separate this weirdness or whatever. It could be interesting and it is nice because we went plenty of years

[00:47:45] We went a few years straight where literally like we would just pick up every fucking game, right? So I get whenever Beat 37 video games at 38. Yeah. Yeah, like it was ridiculous. Yeah

[00:48:03] Nah, come on brother. We did see we got serious shit in real life like just like everybody else You know I'm saying but for real we do serious shit in real life, too

[00:48:12] So, yeah, but I mean that's the love of the game again the whole point of the show just like a lot of content You know in our areas just you know, what's the stuff that brings us together man?

[00:48:23] like the music the game in the fun side the things that kind of outside of just not the hustle and bustle of the life that we live, you know, I'm saying what can kind of bring us together and

[00:48:34] those experiences of gold it like elvin ring brought us together around a common goal of Dread and terror like I love that game now like, you know, it's a different kind of vibe

[00:48:45] You know what? I mean? Um, I wasn't sure you know me when I first started playing I was like man fuck this game Yeah, but I grew into it 2k is out the gate this year, bro. I got a stock. Okay

[00:48:56] yeah, I'm gonna stop rambling cuz I need to get back to it, but uh well, and then you know just the last kind of point that I wanted to make I think before we wrap it up for the day is I Find myself as I get older

[00:49:10] wanting to engage with things in a deeper manner to Really, you know engage with the things I truly love and just try to enjoy them as much as possible

[00:49:21] Instead of like I think I've gotten to the point where it's like I'm 36 and I've tried enough stuff to kind of like Understand myself and know what I'm gonna like and know what I do

[00:49:29] Like I will still give things a shot and not turn myself off to them because anything can surprise me But the things that I really engage with I'm trying to engage with in a deeper way like I'm trying to like

[00:49:43] Take that moment to play Final Fantasy 14 turn on a movie and just let my brain Kind of like melt the day off and I think that's okay

[00:49:52] Like I think that's perfectly fine and I can't wait till God of War comes out this year because I'm sure that that's the yeah That's the only other game. I'm sweating and I mean that's to go back to it

[00:50:01] Like if you if you're casual don't waste your time don't jump on 2k. This is not for you You know, I mean don't don't don't worry about it. Trust me there. They're raping us. They're raping our pockets They're getting plenty of money

[00:50:12] But if you're a hardcore 2k fan Let's go ahead and just let's get to work because we're gonna be on it this year like people gonna be on the game this year Yeah, and but yeah like for the content creators and stuff like that

[00:50:25] Like I had to get it like I might as well keep it in rotation at the end of the day We talked about what we like, but it's kind of nice to be able to put the game play up

[00:50:33] So I'm sure you'll be seeing that there that'll be in That'll be in a rotation until God of War comes out and gives me another break But um, but please let us know what you like as well, please

[00:50:45] Yes, if you if you a 2k fan for real what kind of build are you building if you don't mind like, you know Let let us know let's link up You know I'm saying get in the rotation with one another with that type of stuff and you know

[00:50:56] Oh, yeah one more caveat idea want to forget cuz I know we were talking about games past and analysis put at analysis paralysis But specific to game players. I think part of the reason why people are falling off with it is because of halos

[00:51:08] Just shitty response or shitty release. Yeah, that's a total sidebar starting to hold another conversation Yeah, I'm still keeping my games past but Keeping it I'm definitely keeping my game past Because there's still stuff that I'm going to engage with there

[00:51:24] Like I'm playing Scarlet Nexus like an hour at a time and I still love that. Yeah That's amazing game, but you got anything else today? I mean like as the Queen Elizabeth Charles Boston Tea Party Boston Tea Party Boston Tea Party

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[00:52:59] Stay humble stay humble, but don't take no shit from no. Oh, no be that's a good one You